Loopy DF Discussion page 1

andy

01-05-2010, 05:48 PM

There seems to be an issue with loopy DF, but i dont want to open an other topic to whine about a plane and say "OMG it is OP nerf it". I just want to talk about it and show you some screenshots i took.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3622/altitude201001021616498.png

Two screenshots are about ball and so the loopy fest is predictable especially in a map like football, but still why should there be so many loopys around?

tyr

01-05-2010, 06:17 PM

I really would have loved being on the green team on that first screenshot. *_*

Divra

01-05-2010, 06:19 PM

yeah even the bots wanna play loopy....

Triped

01-05-2010, 06:29 PM

It's fun to fly fast and shoot homing missiles. Loopy will probably always be my favorite plane.

eth

01-05-2010, 06:53 PM

Simple answer: tracking. It's like bouncy, people will do whatever seems to take the least effort.

Smushface

01-05-2010, 06:58 PM

I'm not really sure what you're getting at. If you're trying to insinuate that loopy DF is overpowered, then you're going to have to come up with better evidence than 3 screenshots, 2 of which come from bouncy wall ball noob servers. And in all 3 of your screenshots, loopys aren't even the "best" performers, they're miranda/bomber/explos.

If your post is taking quite literally and your asking why there are so many loopys, then its because you seem to generally be in beginner / novice servers where loopys are popular. If you move on, say to a league game, loopys are not as rampant.

DiogenesDog

01-05-2010, 07:11 PM

Loopy is probably a little OP in Ball games. I think people exaggerate this a little, but it's a legit concern.

It's definitely, absolutely, nowhere in the realm of being OP in any other mode. If anything, it's the weakest plane. It's just the easiest to scrape together some kills with if you're not very good.

andy

01-05-2010, 07:13 PM

I wrote that two screenshots come from ball servers, and i do not usually play there due to that, its not an issue for competitive play imo but still every time i join official 1-3 i see loopy is the most used plane. The problem is that it makes it really annoying to play a game against a team made up of 5/7 DF. I wouldnt care about this if i played all day in captain games server with competitive people, but since this isnt possible due to the lack of online players at certain times i sometimes play in pub servers, and i want to fix this loopy issue.

EDIT: Its not about loopy, its about DF.

nesnl

01-05-2010, 07:38 PM

I guess just be grateful they haven't implemented triple fire yet.

evilarsenal

01-05-2010, 08:18 PM

maimer just gave me nightmares for the rest of my life

Evan20000

01-05-2010, 08:35 PM

I guess just be grateful they haven't implemented triple fire yet.

I see your triple fire and raise you one omnidirectional fire.

classicallad

01-05-2010, 09:24 PM

dude, quadruple fire is where it's at.

tgleaf

01-05-2010, 09:39 PM

I like to rock double shields to stop those double-fire loopies. And it doesn't even take a hack. =P

For the record, gimme double acid... that would be a blast!

Sarah Palin

01-06-2010, 03:21 AM

This is possibly the stupidest loopy-whining thread yet, which is saying something.

TRACKING MAKES LOOPY EFFORTLES, NARF IT! Yes by all means remove tracking entirely and make EMP last one tenth of a second longer. That's a trade I'll take any day.

Reach

01-06-2010, 05:10 AM

tracking emp

TomBRowkaH

01-06-2010, 10:49 AM

Guys. I was thinking, what if the loopy fired in ALL DIRECTIONS. This way, you wouldn't even need tracking anyway, because the bullets would go everywhere. Kill two birds with one stone, right?

STACK

01-06-2010, 04:39 PM

All of this is negated by being super easy to kill. Unless the flippy has armor on, it can be insta killed by any plane. Explodet missile mine combo, biplane DF (doublefire biplane =p), miranda pew warp combo, or bomber "press f" technique. I was super pissed at loopys when I was new but now they usually just pad my ratio, nom. Planes/setups with higher skill ceiling will offer much better rewards which will eventually be apparent to you.

Stormich

01-06-2010, 05:05 PM

I just saw a "veteran" today playing DF with rubber. If you have position you cant get killed, you just hit the walls a bit while escaping and survive. If you can unload your missiles and not get caught right away you just bounce of to freedom :(

andy

01-06-2010, 05:10 PM

I know that. I'm not saying loopy is OP in general but there is actually a problem with DF since every time i join official servers there are about 8DF loopys in there and thats when they start to become annoying. Plus the randa has even less health than loopy. And i actually played this game for a long time so i know about competitive play etc.

EDIT: Screenshot for stormich. Rubber hull DF (theyre not vets but still).

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6837/altitude201001061345181.png

Smushface

01-06-2010, 05:29 PM

Haven't you been mocked enough?

andy

01-06-2010, 06:21 PM

It was just a discussion to improve the game if you want to mock me about it then feel free to do so.

Triped

01-06-2010, 06:47 PM

Equipping rubber hull is totally worth it for the rage quits alone.

[FN]MONXY FIST

01-06-2010, 09:15 PM

All of this is negated by being super easy to kill. Unless the flippy has armor on, it can be insta killed by any plane. Explodet missile mine combo, biplane DF (doublefire biplane =p), miranda pew warp combo, or bomber "press f" technique. I was super pissed at loopys when I was new but now they usually just pad my ratio, nom. Planes/setups with higher skill ceiling will offer much better rewards which will eventually be apparent to you.

Its super easy to stay alive with loopy.

eth

01-06-2010, 09:29 PM

MONXY FIST;30721']Its super easy to stay alive with loopy.

Totally man. The trick is to circle above base all game long, and when enemies come you just sneak of to somewhere with a ****load of turrets. I've had great results with this so far.. you don't get that many kills but hey, at least you don't die.

Phenoca

01-10-2010, 09:43 PM

yeah even the bots wanna play loopy....

Lol.

But yeah, first ball game I joined I did not see more than one player who did not use Loopy.

Deathblade

01-11-2010, 06:44 AM

The real problem?

The real problem is the playerbase. I can use tracker and do better than the dozen dual loopies, both in k/d and in the objective.

But, the Loopy is extremely overrated. A good Explodet, on any map besides the pants-on-head retarded Football map, completely dominates a pure loopy team. DF or not. Acid is actually more of a threat than DF is.

zwanglos

01-11-2010, 07:30 AM

I was about to say the same thing... just counter w/ 8 explodets and see how they like it :P

Varonth

01-11-2010, 03:48 PM

To reduce the amount of loopies, they just have to take away the autoaim.

If autoaim should stay:
Reduce the damage and every non tracker missiles just autoaims if it got fired after the lock-on.
All other rockets fired before the lock-on, just fly straight as before.

Zombi

01-15-2010, 03:27 PM

Just 3 tiny suggestions:

- Add recoil
- Remove aimbot
or
-Reduce HP

Sorry for the epic bump :rolleyes: