A doughnut
12-18-2009, 11:53 PM
I and along with many other people are sick of getting loads of assists. I understand that some game modes announce the most assists, but i don't really care about that. An assist on a full no-bar person gets you 4 xp (i think). A kill on a no-bar person gets you 10 xp. I think that 3 assists, which is equal to 12 xp, should earn you one kill. If you work hard for your kills and have someone swoop down, take one shot, and steal your kill, you don't get the kill. With this rule implies, this assist will still count towards your kills. This way, the assists add up, and don't just get mentioned after the game is over, they actually impact your stats and gameplay.
Massi
12-18-2009, 11:56 PM
I and along with many other people are sick of getting loads of assists. I understand that some game modes announce the most assists, but i don't really care about that. An assist on a full no-bar person gets you 4 xp (i think). A kill on a no-bar person gets you 12 xp. I think that 3 assists, which is equal to 12 xp, should earn you one kill. If you work hard for your kills and have someone swoop down, take one shot, and steal your kill, you don't get the kill. With this rule implies, this assist will still count towards your kills. This way, the assists add up, and don't just get mentioned after the game is over, they actually impact your stats and gameplay.
First off you get 10xp for a no bar kill.
Second, I would just much rather see an assist award in the award screen.
First off you get 10xp for a no bar kill.
Second, I would just much rather see an assist award in the award screen.
duck
12-18-2009, 11:56 PM
What? No. An assist is an assist and a kill is a kill. No amount of assists should constitute a kill.
UsedManatee
12-19-2009, 12:42 AM
What? No. An assist is an assist and a kill is a kill. No amount of assists should constitute a kill.
sure, and an "Assist" should be that -> the extra damage needed to push over the kill limit. In other words, if you do 95% of the damage to a plane and get shot down, and I come in and drop a bomb that happens to be the killing blow, I should not get the kill credit. The kill credit should go to the plane that did the majority of the damage - not necessarily to the killing blow, unless it is counted as such. That last 5% may as well be just tapping him on the head with a spoon.
So either kills should go to the person who really caused the most damage, or assists should be tracked in the scoreboard alongside kill(ing blows) and deaths.
Furthermore, assists should count toward bars. Support troops do get promotions, though maybe not at the same rate as the shock troops. But unless a killing blow is decisive (huge, high % of total), it shouldn't be given full kill credit.
So then that would bring up a new stat to count: clean kills. Kills where you did 100% of the damage, and those should definitely count as big bar boosts.
sure, and an "Assist" should be that -> the extra damage needed to push over the kill limit. In other words, if you do 95% of the damage to a plane and get shot down, and I come in and drop a bomb that happens to be the killing blow, I should not get the kill credit. The kill credit should go to the plane that did the majority of the damage - not necessarily to the killing blow, unless it is counted as such. That last 5% may as well be just tapping him on the head with a spoon.
So either kills should go to the person who really caused the most damage, or assists should be tracked in the scoreboard alongside kill(ing blows) and deaths.
Furthermore, assists should count toward bars. Support troops do get promotions, though maybe not at the same rate as the shock troops. But unless a killing blow is decisive (huge, high % of total), it shouldn't be given full kill credit.
So then that would bring up a new stat to count: clean kills. Kills where you did 100% of the damage, and those should definitely count as big bar boosts.
VeRiTaS
12-19-2009, 12:50 AM
sure, and an "Assist" should be that -> the extra damage needed to push over the kill limit. In other words, if you do 95% of the damage to a plane and get shot down, and I come in and drop a bomb that happens to be the killing blow, I should not get the kill credit. The kill credit should go to the plane that did the majority of the damage - not necessarily to the killing blow, unless it is counted as such. That last 5% may as well be just tapping him on the head with a spoon.
So either kills should go to the person who really caused the most damage, or assists should be tracked in the scoreboard alongside kill(ing blows) and deaths.
Furthermore, assists should count toward bars. Support troops do get promotions, though maybe not at the same rate as the shock troops. But unless a killing blow is decisive (huge, high % of total), it shouldn't be given full kill credit.
So then that would bring up a new stat to count: clean kills. Kills where you did 100% of the damage, and those should definitely count as big bar boosts.
This is the way I would say so too. It is a great idea but not to get 3 assist = 1 kill its better just to show them on the award board.Or as in the qote the most dmg done should get the kill.
So either kills should go to the person who really caused the most damage, or assists should be tracked in the scoreboard alongside kill(ing blows) and deaths.
Furthermore, assists should count toward bars. Support troops do get promotions, though maybe not at the same rate as the shock troops. But unless a killing blow is decisive (huge, high % of total), it shouldn't be given full kill credit.
So then that would bring up a new stat to count: clean kills. Kills where you did 100% of the damage, and those should definitely count as big bar boosts.
This is the way I would say so too. It is a great idea but not to get 3 assist = 1 kill its better just to show them on the award board.Or as in the qote the most dmg done should get the kill.
yoshi
12-19-2009, 04:00 AM
What I personally think would be better would be to show Assists in the stat screen.
Massi
12-19-2009, 04:18 AM
sure, and an "Assist" should be that -> the extra damage needed to push over the kill limit. In other words, if you do 95% of the damage to a plane and get shot down, and I come in and drop a bomb that happens to be the killing blow, I should not get the kill credit. The kill credit should go to the plane that did the majority of the damage - not necessarily to the killing blow, unless it is counted as such. That last 5% may as well be just tapping him on the head with a spoon.
So either kills should go to the person who really caused the most damage, or assists should be tracked in the scoreboard alongside kill(ing blows) and deaths.
Furthermore, assists should count toward bars. Support troops do get promotions, though maybe not at the same rate as the shock troops. But unless a killing blow is decisive (huge, high % of total), it shouldn't be given full kill credit.
So then that would bring up a new stat to count: clean kills. Kills where you did 100% of the damage, and those should definitely count as big bar boosts.
Why do I just correct a bunch. Any experience you get counts toward veteran bars. Its 10xp per bar so 3 4xp assists equals one veteran bar.
So either kills should go to the person who really caused the most damage, or assists should be tracked in the scoreboard alongside kill(ing blows) and deaths.
Furthermore, assists should count toward bars. Support troops do get promotions, though maybe not at the same rate as the shock troops. But unless a killing blow is decisive (huge, high % of total), it shouldn't be given full kill credit.
So then that would bring up a new stat to count: clean kills. Kills where you did 100% of the damage, and those should definitely count as big bar boosts.
Why do I just correct a bunch. Any experience you get counts toward veteran bars. Its 10xp per bar so 3 4xp assists equals one veteran bar.
Ajuk999
12-19-2009, 04:25 AM
Why do I just correct a bunch. Any experience you get counts toward veteran bars. Its 10xp per bar so 3 4xp assists equals one veteran bar.
Sounds cool. Maybe this can be a reality. I actually like that idea a little better Massi. More veteran bars...EVERYONE ♡'s Veteran bars. Including me, so that is a good idea.
More veteran BArs= MORE HAPPY PEOPLE!
"Ain't it great?"
Sounds cool. Maybe this can be a reality. I actually like that idea a little better Massi. More veteran bars...EVERYONE ♡'s Veteran bars. Including me, so that is a good idea.
More veteran BArs= MORE HAPPY PEOPLE!
"Ain't it great?"
Tosconi
12-19-2009, 04:40 AM
it is already this way, don't get that surprised.
MrSniker
12-19-2009, 05:22 AM
I say just an assists on stat screen should be fine.
Massi
12-19-2009, 02:52 PM
Sounds cool. Maybe this can be a reality. I actually like that idea a little better Massi. More veteran bars...EVERYONE ♡'s Veteran bars. Including me, so that is a good idea.
More veteran BArs= MORE HAPPY PEOPLE!
"Ain't it great?"
I was saying that this is the way it is already.
It already is 10xp per bar and xp counts toward it.
More veteran BArs= MORE HAPPY PEOPLE!
"Ain't it great?"
I was saying that this is the way it is already.
It already is 10xp per bar and xp counts toward it.
York
12-19-2009, 03:56 PM
I and along with many other people are sick of getting loads of assists. I understand that some game modes announce the most assists, but i don't really care about that. An assist on a full no-bar person gets you 4 xp (i think). A kill on a no-bar person gets you 12 xp. I think that 3 assists, which is equal to 12 xp, should earn you one kill. If you work hard for your kills and have someone swoop down, take one shot, and steal your kill, you don't get the kill. With this rule implies, this assist will still count towards your kills. This way, the assists add up, and don't just get mentioned after the game is over, they actually impact your stats and gameplay.
Just one problem with this. When you get an assist, your not killing anyone. You ASSISTING someone else. So, why should 3 assists mean 1 kill. A man was walking down the street. He beat up 3 little kids. He then said, "that is equivalent to me beating up Kimbo Slice" That doesn't make that much sense now does it. So, I say no to this suggestion.
Just one problem with this. When you get an assist, your not killing anyone. You ASSISTING someone else. So, why should 3 assists mean 1 kill. A man was walking down the street. He beat up 3 little kids. He then said, "that is equivalent to me beating up Kimbo Slice" That doesn't make that much sense now does it. So, I say no to this suggestion.
Haxz
12-19-2009, 03:56 PM
It would be way too complicated to have three assists count as kills because then if you got like,a assist on a 3 gold bar guy and then two other assists on no bar guys,how does it add up?
Wintegral
12-19-2009, 07:16 PM
A kill is a kill is a kill by any other name. An assist is not a kill. Although we often feel "cheated" if someone else swoops in and gets the kill, they still deserve it. No number of assists should constitute a kill.
Also, as others have said, experience and not kills counts toward veteran bars so assists do help for something.
Also, as others have said, experience and not kills counts toward veteran bars so assists do help for something.
Ajuk999
12-19-2009, 08:06 PM
A kill is a kill is a kill by any other name. An assist is not a kill. Although we often feel "cheated" if someone else swoops in and gets the kill, they still deserve it. No number of assists should constitute a kill.
Also, as others have said, experience and not kills counts toward veteran bars so assists do help for something.
True. We just need to get more kills to get more bars!
Also, as others have said, experience and not kills counts toward veteran bars so assists do help for something.
True. We just need to get more kills to get more bars!
bmaker
12-19-2009, 08:17 PM
A kill is a kill is a kill by any other name. An assist is not a kill. Although we often feel "cheated" if someone else swoops in and gets the kill, they still deserve it. No number of assists should constitute a kill.
Also, as others have said, experience and not kills counts toward veteran bars so assists do help for something.
I agree!
@Others: Whats the problem if someone steals kills? Dont you steal kills yourself from time to time? Doesnt everybody steal kills from time to time? Arent there planes that are much more likely to get assists than others (e.g. Bomber/Explodet due to their splash damage)?
You cant be serious about this...
I'ld love to see the assists in the playerlist. And the playerlist should be displayed on the award screen at the end of each game. But kills should remain kills...
Also, as others have said, experience and not kills counts toward veteran bars so assists do help for something.
I agree!
@Others: Whats the problem if someone steals kills? Dont you steal kills yourself from time to time? Doesnt everybody steal kills from time to time? Arent there planes that are much more likely to get assists than others (e.g. Bomber/Explodet due to their splash damage)?
You cant be serious about this...
I'ld love to see the assists in the playerlist. And the playerlist should be displayed on the award screen at the end of each game. But kills should remain kills...
nesnl
12-19-2009, 11:28 PM
True. We just need to get more kills to get more bars!
You don't need a kill to get a bar. 10xp = 1 bar whether that xp comes from a kill, assist, base damage, turret damage, etc
You don't need a kill to get a bar. 10xp = 1 bar whether that xp comes from a kill, assist, base damage, turret damage, etc
Ajuk999
12-20-2009, 01:03 AM
You don't need a kill to get a bar. 10xp = 1 bar whether that xp comes from a kill, assist, base damage, turret damage, etc
Really? I did not know that. Thanks for telling me, it will make me a fierce player now...I am Ajuk999 Fierce. :)
Really? I did not know that. Thanks for telling me, it will make me a fierce player now...I am Ajuk999 Fierce. :)
Sarah Palin
12-21-2009, 12:02 AM
There is already a "most assists" prize, it's called Most Valuable Player. Trust me the people with the most kills 90%+ of the time also get the most assists.
Jrathje
12-21-2009, 05:55 AM
Assists are assists. If you're getting too many assists, get better at the game...
botakhead
12-21-2009, 09:09 AM
I only have one thing to say, Just leave the balancing to the makers of this game to lam and karl.....
If you cant kill, tats your problem. Not Lam and Karl's
I think this thread can be closed now
If you cant kill, tats your problem. Not Lam and Karl's
I think this thread can be closed now
Triped
12-21-2009, 03:22 PM
I don't like this idea. I like the idea of being a little better than my record suggests in team games. It's the opposite of ratio whoring. :)
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